Modeling Adventures, Squashing and Body Positivity: An Update with Vivienne Rose

You remember Vivienne Rose from two years ago, right? Our favorite squishing smothering goddess graced our podcast with her presence once again. Vivian gives us an intimate peek into her glamorous life as a SSBBW model and her love for New York. With tales of her work trips and her preference for taking road trips over flying, she paints a vivid picture of her exciting modeling journey. We also got an update on her health after her illness during the recent holidays, and we’re thrilled to report she's back in action!

Now, let's get into the nitty-gritty of being a professional model in the world of travel and photography.  Besides modeling, we discuss the untapped potential of voice work in apps aimed at enhancing intimacy for couples. Speaking of intimacy, we address our co-host Beth's challenging time and how your support has been invaluable.

From Vivienne's social media advertising journey in the adult industry to Vivienne's insightful take on body positivity and fetish modeling, we had some enlightening conversations. Vivienne enlightened us about her clientele, their various kinks, and the moral implications of her work. On the other hand, Vivienne helped dispel the common misconceptions about the fetish modeling industry and shed some light on her upcoming collaborations. We also discuss the poignant issues of fatphobia and the impact of social media on body image.

Here is where you can find Vivienne on Twitter/X on Instagram and via email: bbwviviennerose@gmail.com

Chapters

• 0:00 Vivian Rose's Modeling and Travel Adventures
• 10:28 Traveling, Photography, and Sexy Coaching
• 20:46 Adult Industry Advertising and Clientele
• 27:51 Body Positivity and Fetish Modeling
• 37:31 Grieving Loss and Expressing Gratitude

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Are you saying you faked with me?

Speaker 2: 0:02

Yeah, I just can't say it oh.

Speaker 3: 0:07

Oh, oh, so cool, I can't wrong. Now you're single.

Speaker 2: 0:10

What do you know about sexual relations?

Speaker 1: 0:13

Is it true that if you don't use it, you use it?

Speaker 2: 0:16

I'm a little worried about being a slut. You're listening to the Come With Us podcast, talking the good, the kinky and the ugly. Here are your hosts, beth and Erin.

Speaker 3: 0:29

Hey, there are all you holes, polls, everything in between. Welcome to Come With Us podcast. I am Erin Again this week. No, beth Darling, she is still out grieving for the loss of her daughter. If you didn't check out last week's episode with Dr Stephanie Sigler, I highly suggest you do. We got pretty deep, talking about mental health and grieving the loss of a loved one and just all the kind of stuff that Beth is going through right now after losing her daughter. But yeah, feel free to go check it out. It should be episode 155 out there. I don't know if I have them completely numbered, but I'll get around to that.

Speaker 3: 1:05

Today we have a guest that we've had on before, a friend of the show, one that we had gotten some feedback saying hey, we want an update, what's going on? So Vivian Rose was on with us. So let's see, about two years ago she was actually in studio with us Back when Tina was on the show with us as well, and because I'm trying to make sure we keep putting out content and stuff like that, I texted her and said hey, been a couple of weeks since you and I have talked, but it's been a couple of years since our listeners have found out. So you want to come on and talk to us and kind of update us on what's going on with you and the SSBBW modeling world and squashing world and face-sitting and all that fun stuff. And she happily said yes, so joining me now.

Speaker 3: 1:52

Vivian Rose, model extraordinaire. Her camera's not on, so if you're watching on YouTube right now, sorry you don't get to see the live and in-person face of Vivian because she's recovering. Apparently a lot of stuff was going around during the holidays and everybody got sick Luckily not me. I don't know why, so knock on wood there. But, vivian, how you been.

Speaker 1: 2:13

Oh, I'm wonderful. I'm tickled to be called a friend of the show.

Speaker 3: 2:16

Oh yeah, of course you're a friend of the show we loved having you on and it was a blast then and it's gonna be a blast now. So, like I said, it's been about two years. The Amazon Prime show that you were on had just come out, or was just about to come out, when we recorded with you. That's right. That was what 2021, I believe Late 2021 maybe yeah gosh, it was like yesterday and seven years ago.

Speaker 3: 2:48

Yeah, so what have you been up to? Kind of give us a little rundown. What has the modeling and squashing face-sitting world brought you in the last 365 plus days?

Speaker 1: 3:06

You know, it's coming from every angle, it's all kinds of different stuff. It's just being a body positive big girl and being a squishing smothering goddess. I've been traveling a lot, of course, and I stay gone for like one or two or three months and then come back home and do absolutely nothing for about a month and forget I even do this. I'm in vacation mode right now, yeah.

Speaker 3: 3:33

So you live like kind of like a touring band does Like a band will go out on tour for about 90 days, 120 days, you know. Go out there, sell the merch, play the show, sell some albums and then go home, kind of look at each other and go, okay, I don't want to be around you anymore, I just kind of want to sit and hang out. You know, be with my family.

Speaker 2: 3:51

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 3:52

That's crazy. That's I'm assuming. You probably would have, I'd probably guess, four or five total work trips every year where you just kind of disappear from your hometown.

Speaker 1: 4:06

Yeah, yeah, it's. Yeah, that's about right. Yeah, I guess I'll get pretty much usually the East coast lined up and then just go disappear for a while until there's no demand and everybody's tired of me, and then come back home and blow the dugs.

Speaker 3: 4:21

Fair enough, I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad way, do you? Is it a lot of flying, or is it just driving Like you get in the car and roll when you?

Speaker 1: 4:29

line up, I get in the car and roll.

Speaker 3: 4:31

Okay, wow, that's a lot of driving Like I'm one who loves to drive. I love road trips. I used to live in Nashville, so I would make the run from Houston to Nashville a couple of few times a year easily and it would be easy and I had blasts. But I just three months of just driving on the road, stopping for a few days. Driving on the road, stopping for a few days, that sounds hectic.

Speaker 1: 4:55

It can be sometimes, but honestly I've learned things as I've gone about my personal preferences. So there'll be places where I do sit for like a week or two. Usually it's New York. So I'll put New York in the middle of a couple of two or three day visits and then stay in New York for like two weeks and then I'm dying to go again. So I get back in the car, yeah.

Speaker 3: 5:22

And see, I've only been to New York once and it was for work, and it was for like when I go out of town on work, I'm there for like 38 hours. So I don't get to do much of the sightseeing, if at all.

Speaker 1: 5:33

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 3: 5:34

Like I have friends who go to New York and they're like, oh, it's the coolest thing ever, you got to love it, you got to love it. And I'm like, okay, but I don't have time, and there are much. I'm more of an out or like mountains and away from humans kind of person. So if I'm going to go, on vacation.

Speaker 3: 5:49

It's Colorado or I mean I have friends in Colorado so I go there just to see them and their kids. But like the Hill Country here in Texas or the beach or something like that, like New York just sounds so packed and there's just so many people, it would piss me off, I have a feeling.

Speaker 1: 6:06

Well, I think you can find your bubble. But yes, new York is always bustling and always energetic. There's always something going on. I love it, but would never want to live there.

Speaker 3: 6:21

Fair enough. Yeah, I have one friend who went there for a like three day visit years ago and came back and the day he got back was like I'm moving to New York. And I was like what? And I was probably six or seven years older than him, oh, I still am. He's still alive, thankfully. And he was like I'm moving, and he was 22 at the time and I was, you know, 28, but you know, been around the block a little bit more than he had, not saying I experienced a whole lot, but I was like have you put thought into this? He goes, yep, I'm moving. There was a thought about it the whole flight back, and I was like, okay, and so we talked about it and he had a whole plan. He was like by the end of this year I will be living in New York. And he had like a whole map of like I need to do this, this and this.

Speaker 2: 7:07

And I was like okay well, good for you.

Speaker 3: 7:10

And I was like but I know his personality and his personality probably at first I was like you're not going to get along with New York. He was like I don't care, I like the city better than I like the people screw them. So that's how he ended up there. So congrats to him. I mean he's still killing it up there. He moved up there and had had was working three or four jobs in the media spear all at the same time and was killing it Wow.

Speaker 1: 7:35

But yeah Well, there's something special to finding, to discovering that when you find it and you don't immediately jump on it, it sits inside you and festers. As a creative, I feel this.

Speaker 3: 7:48

Yeah, okay, because I'm from Houston and you've been to Houston and you love New York. I didn't know if you wanted to tell people you were from Houston as well.

Speaker 2: 7:59

Absolutely, I'm in Houston.

Speaker 3: 8:01

I don't know if we want to talk about the biases, but better food scene New York or Houston.

Speaker 1: 8:08

Oh Houston. Okay, I just want to make sure but if there were any two Fraternal twins, that would be Houston and New York. We are now currently what? The food capital. The diversity is just amazing, but New York is just older at it, I guess.

Speaker 3: 8:30

Yeah, it's older at it, I mean they. The thing is is like Houston is to me like the city, that you don't go there for the glitz and glam of money. You go there because you love to make like having known a lot of people in the culinary world of Houston, like you either lived here or you moved here because you went. You know what I want to. I'm really good at what I do and I want to show it off. I don't need the. I don't need a, and you know so many celebrity chefs that people see on you know food network or HG TV or whatever the hell it is. They have agents, just like a singer, just like a model, just like your favorite football player. They have an agent that works to get them on TV and get them in people's howlums all the time, so that you know they become more of a brand in Houston. It's a lot of. I don't need an agent. I'm gonna let my food speak for myself.

Speaker 1: 9:21

Have at it exactly, and they do it so well, it's more like. So. Like New York is YouTube shorts of eating and Houston is like the full video, because we're so sprawling and we build out where New York builds on top of everything. You know you have seven layers and here's the landfill, then there's the apartment, then there's the restaurant on top In the roof.

Speaker 1: 9:46

Yeah we have yeah, we have those More and more of those ambiance restaurants coming up, and there was one I just looked at yesterday. The roof is just gorgeous, I mean the ceiling is just gorgeous. And I went to that French restaurant, annabelle's, recently and they have this just whole World on the root of the ceiling of the restaurant that they change out throughout the the year. So we we do a whole experience around the dining and what we do is eat. So we sit and we spread and we relax and gorge.

Speaker 3: 10:24

Very cool, very cool. I have to check that place out. So in traveling you said you like to divide things up by region. When you're traveling, is it more meeting fans, is it more like modeling and photo shoots and shooting content, or is it kind of just? You know six and one half dozen of the other.

Speaker 1: 10:45

The nature has changed as I've gone. When I first started out it was just, I mean, like practice wise I was. I was new at it and I was taking a stab and figuring out what I liked. So it was go where the requests were and Spend a couple of days, actually find out that that was too long. So what I do is I kind of compile all the requests that I get in my email for sessions and Go there and then from there I know that the trip is at least paid for and I can play with whatever else is available. So fan meets I really haven't done, but I'm getting more open to that now. Photography it depends on the city. If it's like Baltimore, for example, photos by Phelps, is there a girl cat photo? So I'll definitely spend more time there because he's there and shoot. So it depends on the city entirely.

Speaker 3: 11:47

Oh, I know girl cat photo they followed, I think after we released with you. They followed us on Twitter. So then we fall back. They like Primarily deal with curvy or plus size, you know, voluptuous models, correct?

Speaker 1: 12:01

Mm-hmm, yeah, and he has his, his flavor Girl cat. So he's three different. He's avalanque, creative arts, girl cat photo and photos by Phelps. And Girl cat photo actually started with me and Anna marks, so we were the first and he has his particular style. He's a little more low light, not Photoshopping out things. You know, seeing cellulite, seeing Marks, that kind of thing. So he's really the one that I cut my confidence chops on photography wise interesting.

Speaker 3: 12:40

Yes, see, that's mm-hmm. Like I know there is artistic differences between photographers, but oh yeah, like all of the nitty-gritty of lighting and all those crazy details Just makes my head spin because you can change it 2% from one thing and all of a sudden the photo looks completely different. It's anybody who does take pictures for a living, or you know I've got family members who did it for a, for a college major. Like that's ridiculous, like I it makes.

Speaker 3: 13:11

Yeah, just and they say the same thing about me with audio and sound, because they'll look at me and I'll sit there with like a two-hour piece of audio and I'll get it cut down, packaged ready to go within, you know, an hour. Um, and they'll look at me and be like how you know, that's what I do, your ways.

Speaker 3: 13:29

I could. I could teach you how, depending on what kind of sound you want to go for and what I mean. We talked about audio a little bit off the air. I'll peel back the curtain. You said you wanted an order, a microphone, because you wanted to do more voice stuff. What kind of voice stuff would you were you interested in?

Speaker 1: 13:44

Well, that's, that's. I mean not listening to me right now because I sound like a trucker, but uh, I, I don't know, I something with voice. When I did my first podcast I was in love like I. I went home feeling like your brother did about new york and it was just voice things, you know, just talking to people, just talking.

Speaker 3: 14:05

Very cool. Yeah, I know that. Uh, beth and I have been working on getting somebody on. There are apps all over the place now that do um, like coaching. Like I want to say it's not sex coaching, but like a play-by-play of, like a uh for people who Want more creativity but also don't feel like they're too creative, I guess, um, there are apps out there that I've now come across that I'm working on trying to get somebody who runs them or works on them, where it's like a step-by-step play-by-play of some Sexy unknown voice. You put it on for you and your partner and they tell you what to do and you do it, and so it's. I love that. It's almost like a simon says without the simon says part of.

Speaker 3: 14:51

Oh, let me be your girl like yeah, uh, so I'll have to send those apps to you and you'll have to look at it, because you've got the voice for it. It would work really well and I can help you. I mean, you're in hues and I can help you get set up with good equipment and everything like that. You make it sound all nice and professional.

Speaker 1: 15:08

Oh that would be awesome. Me and beth um, off behind the curtain and then a little bit on, um talked a little bit about, just you know, coaching people because what I was making. So I have recorded, of course, sex tapes, quote unquote, um, but I shared them with a friend and I don't, I don't remember the impetus, but anyways, she, she found it beneficial. It wasn't a dirty thing, because she was a bigger body and she was trying to understand how to, you know, have intimacy with her partner and the logistics of doing that around. You know, a bigger body. So I think that there's there's a world for that, there's a need for that.

Speaker 3: 15:56

There is and I, I keep. Uh, I love beth. I can't wait to get her, get her back, because I my heart goes out to her. Yeah, we're all praying for. I know our listeners. We've gotten emails and and you know social media interaction, stuff like that saying you know, hey, I'm praying for for beth. Uh, just pass along my, my, my sympathies and my condolences.

Speaker 3: 16:17

Uh, but we we all do, and I mean I wouldn't be here without her, so this, this podcast wouldn't exist without her. So I'm gonna do my best to kind of, I guess, keep it limping along until until we get her back. But you and I talked about that a couple, like a year ago or so, just texting about stuff like that, where you know.

Speaker 3: 16:36

She has she has sexy ed school and all that stuff. You bring a different flavor to it. That you know. You know, hey, she teaches. She teaches women how to or, well, men too how to give blowjobs and how Men and women how to eat pussy like can't, like a champion. You could teach plenty of people. You know Face sitting, squashing, all that fun stuff.

Speaker 1: 16:58

Even more of it. Just having the conversation at all, I think, probably Improves your game Tenfold, because people don't talk about it or they're embarrassed to ask, and and it opens up a whole world when you learn that, oh, the pleasure can be like this I, I've been missing out, oh, let's talk more.

Speaker 3: 17:20

Yeah, exactly. Um, so, speaking of squashing and stuff like that, because you said you told me, uh, off the air, you know that's, that's what you've been doing on some of your, your travels and stuff, um, walk me through it a little bit, because it's not something I'm familiar with. Uh, I mean other than the, the, you know shorts and pictures that you post on. Uh, you post on social media, mostly twitter, because twitter or x or whatever you call it, doesn't have really content. Hey, we're gonna ban you from putting up, you know, pictures of a of a woman's ass or something like that.

Speaker 3: 17:56

Like, uh, like instagram and stuff does.

Speaker 1: 18:00

So my, I think my trips are ultimately the. The goal is those sessions and um, walking you through like what one is. They kind of run the gamut as far as why people like what they like and what it is they like. I mean, even just about sitting on a face Um, there are like seven different reasons that someone can like it, but it's all along the line of femdom, it's all along the line of enjoying the mass, uh, or just in general, loving a big beautiful woman and wanting her in your proximity and having her to yourself. So Gotcha?

Speaker 3: 18:47

uh, yeah, there's been a. I spent a lot of time on reddit when I'm not working, uh, and some of the the reddits that deal with you know the sexier side of life is, at least once a week there's a post of women going Guys, when you say you want us to sit on your face, like I, I'm gonna kill you. Like, what do you want me? Like? What do you mean? Like, stop thinking. Like you're not. There's no way. You're being literal.

Speaker 3: 19:13

And there are mountains and mountains of comments of guys going yep, if I die, I die. Like that being buried beneath a woman's ass sounds the perfect way to go and I mean I'm not gonna say it hasn't crossed my mind. It doesn't sound horrible to me. At the same time, like there is a whole world of people out there who just look at it and go what? That that's an expect. For some reason, a lot of them are women who go that that's what you want like, and think that guys are are being facetious or being over the top or stuff like that yeah, well, I mean, I can imagine the trauma of Someone saying they want something.

Speaker 1: 19:53

I mean you working through your fears about it doing it, and then they freak that's a scar. But I, I mean, I mean I'm over 400 pounds and I have not killed a single person. I haven't even maimed a single person and, trust me, I have given it my all and if I can do it, you'll be fine.

Speaker 3: 20:21

I mean Fair enough, yeah. So how About halfway through here? How does like one go about, like when somebody wants to book a Squashing or face sitting or whatever you want to call it session with you? Like walk us through the whole thing, start to finish all that fun stuff. As much detail as you want to give, basically.

Speaker 1: 20:44

Sure, sure, um. In general, we all Use our social media to advertise in some way. Instagram, of course, is pretty heavily censored, so it's kind of an illusion, uh, to what we do. So it's just the travel schedule and then maybe a picture of me and, like Amazon, amanda, if we're going to be in the same city, or me and Aston Martin if we're going to be in the same city. We give you our travel dates and our email and we ask you to email us if you're interested in booking a session. We also advertise on Twitter. Twitter is a little more explicit, I guess you can say so we, you know, I'll put it.

Speaker 1: 21:29

Yeah, so I can put a picture of me sitting on top of somebody and you can't see anything but their thumb. You know sticking out, saying you know thumbs out.

Speaker 3: 21:39

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:40

So you email. I also advertise on Trist. It's a TRYST, it's a website, tristlink. And we say that we're in the city and people go on there and they search the city, they search for SSBBW, they search for FEMDOM or whatever, and email us. And then from there I say you know I'm going to be here, this is what I require. I ask for a 50% deposit. I host in my hotel and be respectful or I'll kick your ass. Fair enough.

Speaker 3: 22:20

Very cool, Like what kind of? You might not want to answer this or you might, you know, there might be some like NDA that everybody signs, but what kind of? I'm guessing it's mostly men, I don't know have you ever had a female. It's all men, okay, it's all men.

Speaker 1: 22:36

I have not, though I'm open to it. I think women are a little more afraid.

Speaker 3: 22:40

Fair enough Of the men that you've, you know that you meet, that do this, like when you're out there traveling, because it's not just you, Like you said, there's, you know, models and models and models and plenty of women who do it. Like what kind of fate, like what kind of what?

Speaker 1: 22:54

kind of a Democrat.

Speaker 3: 22:56

Yeah, like what are we looking at? Like what kind of a guide. If you saw in it sitting at a bar, would you go? Bet you 50 bucks I could get her. I've had an email from that guy just by.

Speaker 1: 23:09

You know what? I actually have tried that and that's something that crosses my mind. When they walk in the door, it runs the gamut. When I first started out I thought I knew and I didn't. I was so wrong.

Speaker 1: 23:22

I've had these huge, 65 big boys walk in the door and then I've had these little tiny, you know five, one skinny, nervous little guys come in. I've had perfectly normal, like blue colored, bricklayer, new Yorker kind of guys, and the only thing that kind of differs is maybe what they like about it, okay, what it is they're seeking when you're there, and sometimes even that is not predictable. So it really runs the gamut and I asked them a lot of like the origins of their kink or you know where do you think you started liking something like this? And and, for example, one said that when his teacher would discipline him in, I think, kindergarten, you know, she would hold him down by sitting on him. One said he was he had like you know, because I guess he was a frenetic little thing and he ran around everywhere, so she held him down by sitting down on him.

Speaker 3: 24:32

That's like a hundred percent inappropriate for a teacher to do to a student. That was, that was.

Speaker 1: 24:37

That's still kind of back, when they still had corporal punishment.

Speaker 3: 24:42

Yeah, I mean there, that that is. You bring it up. I mean there are people who developed a spank kink for stuff like that because that was you know what what would happen in school. You know you're bad, you get whacked with a ruler, you get you know swatted with a paddle, kind of thing.

Speaker 1: 24:58

But that's something I found out. I didn't know. I like doing.

Speaker 3: 25:02

Really.

Speaker 1: 25:03

Someone made me a paddle.

Speaker 3: 25:05

So you like the spanking or being spanked?

Speaker 1: 25:08

Oh don't, don't spank me you okay, okay. No, I mean, you know personal life maybe yes, but not too much. It's not a submissive. You know daddy's going to punish you thing, because I'll kick your ass. But yeah, I've definitely become more dominant doing this.

Speaker 3: 25:25

Okay, so, basically.

Speaker 1: 25:27

So, so there's that and then one guy told me, like he was, he was wrestling with his cousin as a kid and there was this point where I guess she sat on him in such a way that it stimulated his little boy bits and so he associates that. And it wasn't about the cousin, it wasn't anything family gross, it's just you know it's a body part and you know it functions healthy and you found out he liked that.

Speaker 3: 25:59

Interesting. All right, yeah, are most of your like this is going to sound weird, or I'm not trying to call anybody out or anything like that Are they mostly like single men or some of them, married? Are they, you know? Are there married ones who have their, their significant other's blessing, or ones that are you know? Like you can tell, they're trying to kind of keep things under wraps.

Speaker 1: 26:20

I think that they're largely single guys. I don't ask too much about it because I like to have a plausible deniability, because I do have a moral compass and and I don't want to, you know, walk around with that karma, yeah. But at the same time I I do feel I am a service and it is something that I've thought about long and hard to try to understand from every angle. And if someone were to ask the very things that I do for work in a personal relationship, I think I'd feel like a freak. So I get why they would come to me as opposed to their wives, because there is that Madonna whore complex that prevails among women and a lot of men. You know, they can't see their wife as this and that and that's that duality that I think is a time long challenge, you know.

Speaker 3: 27:29

Yeah, so Interesting.

Speaker 1: 27:32

That makes sense?

Speaker 3: 27:33

No, no, cool All right, I mean, yeah, I mean it's like I said, it's stuff that we I've seen posted on our social media is when I'm trying to I need to be better about posting stuff, but you know that's going through and trying to find, you know, find guests, find topics, find stuff we want to talk about. See you promoting your stuff all the time and that was more of my curiosity and I don't know how many of our listeners are curious, curious about it. But hey, they got a rundown.

Speaker 1: 28:03

Yep, email me. Yeah, you know it runs the gamut, it's not. You know that's not the only things I do, because I can't have possibly done everything. And even Amazon Amanda, who's been doing this for 20 years, she hasn't done everything. So I am an infinitely curious person and I want to expand my knowledge of what is the key, what people are interested in, and so I welcome emails and questions too, as long as you're not wasting my time.

Speaker 3: 28:35

Yeah, see, I remember when you brought, when you'd said her name to me, I was like man, I know that name. Why do I know that? Why do I know that name? She was on Comedy Central. What now is probably a decade ago, with with Daniel Tosh on Tosh.0. And so like that was. That was.

Speaker 3: 28:54

I heard the name when you said it to me one time and I was like I know the name, I like what, and so then I had to rack my brain for days and days and finally I just like Googled it and I googled her and stuff like that and then threw enough YouTube scrolling like oh hey, she was on with Daniel Tosh, that's why I know the name, that's okay, kind of thing. So it was how often? Sorry, I'm gonna go off the side from what I was about to ask you, but like, how often do you work with her?

Speaker 1: 29:26

There. There isn't a frequency to give you a how often, but we do text and try to be in the same city, or at least I try to be in the same with her. We will be. We'll be in Seattle together in January.

Speaker 3: 29:43

Oh, very cool. And we're working on being in Seattle coming in January. There's a At a period that on okay, you said Amanda's gonna be there. There's Aston Martin, you said.

Speaker 1: 29:57

Oh, yeah, yeah, I'll be. There are obviously.

Speaker 3: 30:00

I mean, I've been, there are plenty of actual cars like that, but she's actually a model, correct? She's model like you. She is a porn star. Oh wow, she's full of port, so You're not gonna like Again if I, if I step on your toes here, tell me, no, bring it. What would you classify yourself as versus what you know? Amanda or Aston, or any of them, would be?

Speaker 1: 30:26

So Amanda and I came to this conclusion in an Uber Because we were riding to a restaurant in San Francisco and the guy was asking what we do and we were particularly giggly. I don't know why, but we're fetish models. That's what we are.

Speaker 3: 30:40

Okay, so you Vivian Rose, fetish model Aston Martin.

Speaker 1: 30:47

I, okay, okay but I am bringing her over to the world of face-sitting.

Speaker 3: 30:56

I.

Speaker 1: 30:56

I have a feeling if there's gonna be a person that you know, bring her over and get her to enjoy it, it would be you you know she, I Guess you know when she and I have conversations I'm Remembering through her how I used to be about the concept, because there are things that I now like, accept and allow, as far as the fetish of being my size or the fetish of doing certain things and certain things that men ask of you in a session. She is just Getting into it and she's just learning that she kind of likes it and that it's okay and it doesn't make her feel Like a fetish or like a freak. You know she, she still has some issues around that. Yeah so, but she's starting to love the face-sitting part. And man, when we're in a city together, the demands for that are insane.

Speaker 3: 31:56

Oh, I bet. But they want us to face it each other and I'm like Fair enough, but so, before we get you out of here, you're talking about body positive positivity and you know, even talking about you know Aston kind of coming into her own with that kind of stuff. You were in a book recently, right?

Speaker 1: 32:17

Oh, so I was. He was a professor at Marion University at the time and now he's somewhere else, but he started this project for a book fatphobia, body positivity and social media's impact on it and he interviewed a handful of us Girls that are out there in whatever capacity you know, doing body positivity photography, the Instagrams with the talking about the issues that we experience in our bodies, and that is, excuse me, culminating. This month, I believe that they will be finally publishing. It found a publisher and it will be made into a whole bookie book.

Speaker 3: 33:06

Very cool. Yeah, you'll have to send it to send us the details when it comes out and we'll have. We'll post it on social media as well.

Speaker 1: 33:12

Very cool.

Speaker 3: 33:13

It's interested in it.

Speaker 1: 33:15

There's also a couple of. So I worked with Julia shoots in LA. She's a wonderful, amazing Swedish photographer who lives in LA now and and she's put out I think it's three different coffee table books and I think at one point one of them is going to be at available at the MoMA. I'll have to get more details, but Julia shoots I'm in her three books. She did one that was all around kind of a pop star photographer photography style and and it's Dom's and their subs and so that's. That's pretty interesting and it's all just photography. So I'll find the information on that. I think that'll be very cool to see very cool.

Speaker 3: 34:07

Well, I thank you for being here with us today. I know Beth misses you. We'll have you on again when, when everything you know we get back to you to full strength here, because I know she misses you and because you live in the same city as us, will actually, you know, be in the same room hang out. We had some listeners who said you know, because what was? 85 inches around.

Speaker 3: 34:32

Yeah, 84, 85, we had emails in and stuff, when you were on the first time and said, hey, what you know, you guys are talking about this, this large and beautiful woman and I came to YouTube because I was listening and then I wanted to see. You know what I'm trying to get my mind to wrap 85 inches around and you never stand up and show off. So we'll do something in person when people can get a better, better idea. But also go follow Vivian on Twitter, facebook, instagram. What are all of those?

Speaker 1: 35:04

So on Twitter I'm BBW Vivian Rose. On Instagram I'm the Vivian Rose, and and those. Those are the basics. I try to keep the Vivian Rose as the theme.

Speaker 3: 35:19

Gotcha. Okay, well, cool, there you go. I'll post those links to your socials as well in the in the show notes, all that stuff. And then if anybody wants to get in contact with you or questions about you know, squashing body positivity, stuff like that, we did a whole Beth and I did a whole episode About six months ago or so about a guy emailed in said you know, my wife, she, you know she's had kids and now she's she feels Unsexy. So how do I bring out that body Body positivity? That was there when we first started dating kind of thing, and so we do it into that a little bit. So, but yeah, so anybody who interested want to find out, go check out Vivian Rose on Twitter, instagram, all that fun stuff. Like I said, sit down there in the show notes, feel free to go, click and explore and learn. You might find something that you're interested in that you didn't. You know, talk about finding things all the time that, oh hey, never occurred to me that you might be interested in.

Speaker 1: 36:24

Feel free to email me to you.

Speaker 3: 36:26

Cool, I'll put that down in the show notes as well. Thank you for being here with us. I appreciate it. Holds polls. Guys, girls, everybody. Feel free to go. Follow us on social media if you're not already. If you're not, shame on you. Come with us podcast on Facebook and Instagram. Come with us pod on Twitter while I'm still, you know, keeping this thing running.

Speaker 3: 36:48

If you have any topics you want to dive into, guess you're interested in models. You know I'm not gonna promise I can get you know Kate Upton or anybody like that on the show, but if you have a somebody you follow in the sexy world that you want an opinion on or you want to hear from, email us, come with us confessions at gmailcom, that's. Come with us confessions at gmailcom. I'm checking that daily Just in case there's somebody out there who goes oh, I'm interested in this and I haven't heard anybody talk about it. So make sure you share the share the episode, share the podcast with your friends. It might be weird, share it with your family, but if you're that kind of comfortable person, go for it. Thank you for listening. We will be back here next week. Keep praying for Beth and her family as they they grieve the loss of kaya Ambivian. Thank you for being here and.

Speaker 3: 37:43

Next week.

Speaker 2: 37:47

Thanks for listening to the come with us podcast. Be sure to follow us on social media. I come with us podcast and send in your questions, comments and confessions to come with us. Confessions at gmailcom. Until next time, keep it fun, flirty and naughty you.